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Кусочек из мануала на Иврите с примерами на Перле. Здорово отзеркалено - даже навигационная панель справа, удобно.

Не могу отделаться от параллели с левосторонним движением: тоже, вроде, особо объективных причин предпочитать одну сторону другой нет.

Date: 2005-06-21 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matanya.livejournal.com
Нет проблема. Смотрите на пример это: http://www.haaretz.co.il.

значит что гласными (Vowel punctuation?) не нужны для тех которы знают языка. Как Иврит у меня родной язык, я читаю этой газета свободно, без гласными. Их используют только когда слова не известная, и вообще всегда в стихотворения.

Date: 2005-06-22 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jayrandom.livejournal.com
Yes, I meant vowel punctuation. Is it possible to have them on a web page exactly as they should be (over and inside vav, inside pe/fe, a dot over shin/sin, etc)?

I'm asking because what I have seen so far was a very artificial way of adding the vowel punctuation - usually after, but not inside or around letters - like in this excerpt from Torah. (It is possible though that it's only my browser that cannot show Hebrew correctly.)

Date: 2005-06-22 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matanya.livejournal.com
That I do not know. I write actually very little in Hebrew, and I still have not posted any Hebrew pages on my web site, though I should. In principle, it seems to me that if you have the right font which you can use in MS WORD, then it should be possible to post it on the web. If any browser can display Cyrillic, Arabic, Georgian and Hindu, it should be able to display fully punctuated Hebrew.

Date: 2005-06-22 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jayrandom.livejournal.com
Does it mean that you can actually see the excerpt above with correct punctuation "inside" the letters?

Date: 2005-06-22 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matanya.livejournal.com
Some but not all. The beit+dagesh and the mem+dagesh seem to show properly, but not the others.

Date: 2005-06-22 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jayrandom.livejournal.com
I think I've found an explanation. Both separate and combined characters are present in Unicode.

So, in a way you are right - if you can type the letters with daggesh and vowels, you can web-publish them as well. It is not directly linked to the font you have, but rather to the keyboard driver's capabilities, but who cares :)

Otherwise, all these characters can be coded using Unicode, number by number. Of course, this is too tedious for a text. But quite acceptable if you only need a couple of characters as an example.

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